Bunch of Yahoos

Having a great set of developer tools can help make your platform ubiquitous and loved. When Microsoft first launched its Developer Network it revolutionized the way programmers got access to their operating systems, tools, and documentation. They successfully migrated that set of resources to the web and it remains invaluable for Windows developers. If you’ve ever set up access to a Google API, or deployed a set of EC2 resources on Amazon’s AWS cloud infrastructure, you know how impactful a clean, functional web interface is.

By the same token, a clunky, dysfunctional interface can make a platform loathed and avoided. Take Yahoo’s Developer Network and their BOSS premium APIs, for example.

We’re working on a system that needs to geolocate placenames in blocks of free text. This isn’t a trivial problem. There’s been a lot of work done on it, and we’ve explored most of it. During that exploration we wanted to try Yahoo’s PlaceSpotter API. It’s a pay service, but if it works well the cost could be reasonable, and just because we have built our system on free and open-source components doesn’t mean we won’t pay for something if it improves our business.

With that in mind I set out to test it, just as I had previously set out to test Google’s Places API. In that experiment I simply created a Google application under my user name, grabbed the creds, and wrote a python wrapper in about five minutes to submit text queries and print out the results. That’s my idea of a test.

In order to test Yahoo’s PlaceSpotter I needed access to the BOSS API. To get access to the BOSS API I needed to create a developer account. Ok, that’s not an issue. I will happily create a developer account. To create a developer account, it turns out, requires a bunch of personal info, including an active mobile number. Ok, I’ll do that too, albeit not quite as happily because all I want to do is figure out if this thing is worth exploring.

I should note that there is a free way to get to the same Geo data that BOSS uses, and the same functionality, through YQL queries. Maybe I was shooting myself in the foot right from the beginning, but I had no experience with YQL, I needed to move quickly and make some decisions, and I just wanted an API I could fling http requests at. Since the billing is per 1000 queries I had no problem paying for the first 1000 to test with. Not that big a deal.

After creating the account, during which I had to change the user name four times because of the cryptic message that it was “inappropriate” (no, I was not trying to use b1tch as a user name, or anything else objectionable), I finally ended up on a control panel-ish account dashboard. There I could retrieve my OAUTH key (ugh) and other important stuff, and activate access to the BOSS API.

I clicked the button to activate the API, and the panel changed to display another button labelled “BOSS Setup.” Next to that was a red rectangle stating that access to BOSS was not enabled because billing had not been set up. It wasn’t obvious to me that in order to set up billing you have to click “BOSS Setup.” I assumed billing would be at the account level. Well there are billing options at the account level! They’re not the ones you want, and unless the verbiage triggers some warnings as it did for me you might just go ahead and set up your credit card there, only to find it didn’t help.

Not to be deterred, I googled a bit and found that, indeed, I had to click “BOSS Setup.” It would have been nice if they had mentioned that in the red-colored billing alert. So I clicked, entered my login again because, you know, I was using the account control panel and so obviously might be an impostor, and ultimately found the place to enter my payment information. Once that was done, submitted, and authorized I received a confirmation and invoice in my email. Now, I could finally toss a few queries at the API.

Except no. When I returned to the account dashboard the same red-colored billing alert appeared. No access. I am a patient man, some of the time. Maybe their systems are busy handshaking. I waited. Nope. I waited some more. Nope. I gave up and waited overnight, and checked again this morning. Nope. Ok, dammit, I’ll click the “BOSS Setup” button again. I do that and what they show me is the confirmation page for my order again, with an active submit button. But wait… I got an invoice? Was I charged? Will I be charged again? Should I resubmit, or email Yahoo, or call my bank?

Maybe I should just not use the API. Oh, and did I mention that they have a “BOSS Setup” tutorial? It’s a download-only PDF. And 2/3 of it is about setting up ads.

3 thoughts on “Bunch of Yahoos

  1. Just found your post, going through the same thing atm!! aghhhh

    From reading your post, it seems I need to do something similar. I was wondering what you finally ended up using to solve your problem?

    Any help would save this developer ‘me’ hours / days / months :-)


  2. Hi, Darcek. We ended up using a combination of techniques. A java-based coarse geocoder called twofishes that was developed by Foursquare (you can find it on github), along wih geonames.org and the Google places API. Twofishes was pretty effective at finding city names in free text, but we had to work around some of its quirks using rules that corrected input text. Good luck!

  3. The Yahoo! BOSS APIs are shutting down on March 31, 2016. If you’re looking for a good replacement for PlaceSpotter, I recently launched Geoparser.io — it’s free to use during the public beta period and you can request an API key through the website: https://geoparser.io/

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